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Podcast: Wrapping up PSU wrestling season. And is NCAA scoring system flawed?

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Penn State crowned four individual champs at the NCAA Wrestling Championships over the weekend in St. Louis, and the Nittany Lions finished second to Iowa in the team standings. The Hawkeyes had one individual champion.

PSU became the first team to have four individual champions and not win the NCAA team title, which leads to an interesting question about whether the NCAA scoring system might be flawed a bit.

The champion at each weight gets 16 points, the runner-up 12 points and the third-place finisher 10 points. With only a 6-point differential between the champion and third place, can we ask the question of whether the winner should receive more points?

This isn’t about complaining that Penn State got robbed somehow. It’s merely a question about math and rules.

Iowa has the deeper team and won fair and square. For wrestling fans who happen upon this, PLEASE understand the value of the discussion as opposed to getting ultra defensive about the sport.

The team competition was already over before the finals had even begun Saturday night, and that was with PSU having four finalists. What we discuss in the podcast is if more value should be given to the winner in each weight, such as, say, 20 points for the champion. Because it seems like the 16-12-10 breakdown doesn’t seem to give the actual winner enough credit.

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Andy Stine joined “Sports Central with Cory Giger” on WRTA in Altoona to discuss all of this and wrap up the Lions’ season.

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Cory Giger is a 15-year veteran of the Penn State beat and a journalist with 28 years of experience. He has won more than 100 state and national journalism awards during his career, plus he's a voter for the Heisman Trophy in football and Wooden Award in basketball.

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  1. Ghengis Khan

    March 24, 2021 at 6:22 am

    Wow…if an NFL team has the Defensive MVP and the Offensive MVP and the Special Teams Pro Bowler on their team they should be given The Superbowl Title based on those individuals rather than the team effort?? How many Baseball All Stars can the Yankees aquire every year before they are crowned champion without playing for the Series title?? Just because your wrestling team didn’t win the title this year you want to change the rules ?? They haven’t won their own conference title the past 2 years and yet you want to change a system that has been in place for a long time?? There have been teams that won this title before with loads of all Americans and not a single champion…its a TEAM TITLE… your mentality of thinking that Somehow PSU deserved to win is flawed and foolish. Are they good and are they a local team that has a lot of support? Yes to both questions. But are they the National Champions this year ? ..No because they didn’t win it .

    • Cory Giger

      March 24, 2021 at 7:42 am

      You’re right. Penn State didn’t win it. Iowa did. Iowa was the better team. Iowa is deeper. Iowa had more good wrestlers. Iowa was better. Iowa won. Iowa deserved it. Iowa is awesome. Iowa is better than PSU. I can keep saying this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. That is NOT the point. It was never the point. This is not about sour grapes. AT ALL. Listen to the podcast discussion and you’ll see all I’m talking about is the weird math. The 16-12-10 system from first to third seems like it doesn’t value the first-place guy enough. That’s the entire point of the discussion — to wonder just how many individual champions a team could have under that system and still not necessarily win the team title. It could be as many as 7 depending on other factors.
      Iowa won. Iowa won. Iowa won. Iowa won. I am NOT claiming anything other than 16 points for the winner seems low when second gets 12 and third gets 10.

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